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Offline jagular7

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Longer traveling rear shocks
« on: December 04, 2004, 04:12:10 PM »
I've added a 2" Jeep spacer to the top of the springs, added a Jeep lower bump stop riser on the axle mount to compensate for the spring spacer, and now just added a set of stock XJ front shocks. They provided an extra 1" droop at the wheelwell.

My -7 has 225/75-16's, measuring from ground through axle center to wheelwell, I measured 36".
Lenexa, KS

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2004, 01:07:46 AM »
odd,  I have calmini's 2.5 lift w/ 245/75/16 and I only got 33 1/2 in ???  Wounder if my springs are starting to sag???
George
« Last Edit: December 07, 2004, 04:31:43 AM by blacknight »

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2004, 01:09:28 AM »
You didn't take any numbers befor you did your lift?
George

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2004, 11:35:07 AM »
Read over my message, and see that I mislead. It's not that tall staticly. That's the height when the rear tire comes off the ground lifting with a floor jack at the frame. Sorry. Static height is 34" (just measured). Still higher than yours???? I'm using the 2" Jeep (XJ/TJ/ZJ)poly lift blocks.

Just mentioning that the stock XJ shocks (came from a 91 that went to a 4" lift) will give better droop for even a stock XL7.
Lenexa, KS

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2004, 03:47:57 AM »
Jag, Just took a look at your suspension photos. Have you tried any of those other springs in your rig? And also did you happen to calculate spring rates of the stock springs when you had them out?

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2004, 06:02:06 AM »
Those other springs being the ZJ's are a friends. I've got the blocks in the rear and that is rather too easy to perform. Next is to get some springs or blocks for the front to lift 1.5-2". Since the lower control arm's throw is short relative to the spring, I can't get anything in there. The taller springs wouldn't work.

I however have came up with an idea to install the block. By making a rigid spring compressor, I'll let the springs compress into this while lowering the a-arm. The static and expanded heights of the spring is what makes it difficult. I've purchased several compressors from Harbor Freight. I'll be cutting the long all-thread to size.
But first, I need to drop the upper strut mount. I've got the flat plate cut and just need to trim for size now. Currently, work, being a Dad, life is getting in the way. Plus, there is an event local to KC this weekend at KanRocks.
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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2004, 04:30:44 AM »
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Read over my message, and see that I mislead. It's not that tall staticly. That's the height when the rear tire comes off the ground lifting with a floor jack at the frame. Sorry. Static height is 34" (just measured). Still higher than yours???? I'm using the 2" Jeep (XJ/TJ/ZJ)poly lift blocks.

Just mentioning that the stock XJ shocks (came from a 91 that went to a 4" lift) will give better droop for even a stock XL7.


OK went out got some new numbers:
with the rear jacked up:
40" from ground to wheelwell
16" from top of rim to wheelwell (takes tires size out of hieght)

rear sitting on the ground:
33 3/4" ground to wheelwell
10 1/2" top rim to wheelwell

Still I think that I may be getting spring sag :(

george

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2004, 05:01:44 PM »
This spring we call" Bowl Spring". The traveling is 63cm(For skyjacker 63cm absorber)



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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2004, 12:50:09 AM »
What are you guys doing with the brake line that comes over the frame to the drum when you are extending the shocks in the rear? I know when I disconnect the track bar it droops about another 2" then the brake lines are stressed all the way out as well. I have the braided line from the control to the housing but those side runners would have to be addressed, right?

also, I saw a GV yesterday online that had the Calmini shocks in the rear but he had fabbed up a 2" bracket for the bottom mount which gave him an extra 2 of droop. Any thoughts? I wonder if a shackle style something or other could be made that would give the added droop and compression? It would close and open just like a shackle. But then again, why not just order new shocks . . . pretty neat though. ;D

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2004, 04:24:17 PM »
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This spring we call" Bowl Spring". The traveling is 63cm(For skyjacker 63cm absorber)




I'm not quite sure if I'm seeing things right, but does that little GV have a Dana 44 rear axle??
97 Sport
265/70-16s
2" lift
2.0 swap
I know...Pretty boring... FOR NOW...

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2004, 12:46:03 AM »
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I'm not quite sure if I'm seeing things right, but does that little GV have a Dana 44 rear axle??

I am not quite sure,too.But we could change the rear axle to Dana 44(Only for GV, not L-7). See this: http://www.offroad.org.tw/dousun/gv/index.htm
and link to NO3.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2004, 12:46:53 AM by joejoekuo »

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2004, 06:13:51 AM »
I tryed the link but I think their site is down or the link is bad  :-/ Why not the XL-7 the axles are almost the same as the GV???
George


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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2004, 10:52:13 AM »
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I tryed the link but I think their site is down or the link is bad  :-/ Why not the XL-7 the axles are almost the same as the GV???
George


The link is good,isn't it?
The drivers of XL-7 in Taiwan have the same question about the rear axle. They looks like only L-7 is longer. But GV has a lot of kit to modify, not for L-7.

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2004, 11:04:10 PM »
Never mind got it to work. Had to look at it from home :P
George

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Re: Longer traveling rear shocks
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2004, 01:56:51 AM »
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