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Project RallyKick-Redeux (Finishing the valve adjustment .)

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Hey Zag
Just a little tidbit for you, if you nab an electric fan from an A/C equiped Kick you can mount the fan in front of the rad and free up some much needed room between engine and rad, particularly if you got meathooks for hands. I did this on mine and ran it through a temp switch and have no cooling issues at all. These fans move a lot of air. :)
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Hey thanks for the tip Biker!

     It's good one, the less work the better in my world!

     Unforntunately up here in the Great White North air cond Track/Kicks are like hens teeth so I will continue with my version. But if you can get the A/C fan as Biker recommended it's a great way to do it.

Zag
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Ok gang

     We are going to take a small step back and talk valve adjustment. It was rightly pointed out to me on the comments thread that it's a good plan to do one with a major tune up and the  folks that brought it up are correct.
     The design of the valvetrain on the 8v's is a rocker system that takes the profile of the cam and operates the valve like a lever. This is a strictly manual operation that does not self adjust and does require periodic adjusting.
     When you are adjusting the valves what you are adjusting is the gap between the cam lobe and the rocker arm. The gap is there to allow for expansion and contraction of the components and keeping the correct gap guareeentees the correct operation of the valves and that the profile of the cam is prpoerly followed. Performance cams, as an example, can be very sensitive to correct valve setting, too wide they won't run right, too tight and they break rocker arms.

So lets get our tools ready
- 10mm wrench
- 12mm wrench
- 10-12-14 sockets
- extension
- ratchet
- blade and phillips screw drivers
- good feeler guage set
- 1/2 drive 17mm
- 1/2 drive ratchet
- your favorite manual

While you get ready I'll try taking some more mediocre pictures.

Zag

« Last Edit: September 06, 2005, 08:49:26 AM by zaggy »
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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Revised for Newbies- (1.6/8v, valve adjustment)
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2005, 02:03:40 PM »
Tools together...let's start

- Disconnect your battery...better safe than sorry
- Using the 1/2 drive socket and ratchet turn the engine so your timing marks line up, you are
  now at #1 Top dead center

- Now carefully remove these parts...gentle don't break anything including your knuckles



With the valve cover off both valves should be closed (pointy end of the cam down) and you should be able to just wiggle the rockers a tad.

(pics to follow)

If it isn't meeting this description you aren't on TDC (top dead center), so recheck and getr there.
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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Revised for Newbies- (1.6/8v, valve adjustment)
« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2005, 10:51:27 AM »
Not to be rude but.....wheres the rest?

Snake

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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Revised for Newbies- (1.6/8v, valve adjustment)
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2005, 12:13:09 PM »
"patience grasshopper"

you are getting what you paid for ...

he's probably payin the bills and should be back when possible with updates.
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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Oops Sold..I'll finish the valve adjust though.)
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2005, 10:04:33 AM »
Here we go finishing the valve adjustment.....

     The way I am about to describe is geared to those that have never done this....those with experience will have a different sequence that is much faster but I felt showing a real basic one at a time method was more sorted to those having never done it.

***remember I am volunteering this information and accept no responsibilty for you following along...if in doubt consult a professional mechanic or the an appropriate manual***

So you've got all the necessary stuff off and out of the way, the engine is at top dead center #1 with the pointy ends of the cam lobes facing down and the heels (round smooth part facing up..

The intake clearances are listed at .005" to .007"  COLD
The exhaust                                    ..006" to .008" COLD

Get your feeler guage ready

Now insert the feeler guage between the heel of the cam and the rocker follower, like in the pictures..this should be a very snug but not a force fit...it should just slide in with firm pressure.




Now if the valve is too tight or too loose you need to adjust it...

Using a good screw drive and 12mm wrench hold the adjuster firm and loosen the nut




Turn the adjuster till the feller guage fits as described




Then tighten the nut, good and snug but don't get carried away, and be sure to hold the adjuster screw steady...if it moves while you are tightening the nut it changes the adjustment.

Now recheck your adjustment and do the other valve on #1 cylinder

Now turn the crankshaft (by hand) till #2 cylinder is at TDC as we did with #1 and repeat the process



Keep going till you are done all four cylinders

The important part with this is to be patient and take your time...be sure the valves are correctly adjusted...and everything is good and tight.

Once done I always pull it through 1-2 times by hand and recheck all the clearances a second time.

Put everything back together and you're ready to go.

If you run into problems....read your manual

Now your little 1.6/8v is checked over throughly, tuned, timed, valves adjusted and you are getting as close to factory power as you are going to get

Time to go have fun.

Zag
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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Oops Sold..I'll finish the valve adjust though.)
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2005, 10:08:05 AM »
Sorry to have to say this but....

Project RallyKick has been sold....it wasn't planned, it wasn't advertised but a customer came in and said "Is the Side Kick for sale" and I said "Make me an offer" figuring he was piss'n around.

Well he paid a really good price in cash for the Kick and I got a 80 Jag XJ12L in trade.
(That's right Praire Dog and Da Tub, now I got 2 Jags)

Now the valve adjust DIY is done  I have to start lok'n for another Kick.

Anyone know of anything close to Alberta?

Zag
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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Finishing the valve adjustment .)
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2005, 11:19:40 PM »
hey zag saw a 95 2 wd in the bargin finder for 1800.. think it was up in your end... i'll try to find it again.. didn't write it down...hehe  was inbetween coats of paint..and waitin foer the first one to dry
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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Finishing the valve adjustment .)
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2005, 02:39:44 PM »
This had bean are real good thing for information

Will there be more or is this thing over? I have a beater and found it real good for help keeping it running

thnks

Snake

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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Finishing the valve adjustment .)
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2005, 12:14:52 PM »
Snake, I am sure there will be more this not bieng the first it will likely not be the last, in the mean time, there are manny of us here more then willing to help, and lots with mechanical knowladge.  if you have a question post it up and somone will have an answer.   

 
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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Finishing the valve adjustment .)
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2005, 12:38:27 PM »
Mythose is right...

     There will very likely be more later. But you don't have to follow a thread. His advice is good, post a question and someone will help.

Zag
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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Finishing the valve adjustment .)
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2005, 10:33:08 AM »
Have you found another Suzuki yet?

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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Finishing the valve adjustment .)
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2006, 08:21:02 AM »
Anybody know what happened to the pictures in this thread, or know of an illustrated valve lash adjustment FAQ?  Thanks.

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Re: Project RallyKick-Redeux (Finishing the valve adjustment .)
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2006, 08:26:26 PM »
Heres another I bumped up to answer some of the basic questions that keep coming up.

Zag
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