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Offline derekj

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brake upgrade
« on: August 29, 2005, 02:26:40 PM »
i put 4 door calipers, rotors, and pads on my 2 door 91 kick. is it a good idea to replace the master also?

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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2005, 06:55:08 PM »
If your master is good, there is no need,
4 door brakes rock for stopping with big tires

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Offline biker

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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2005, 09:37:17 PM »
I just did this swap a short time ago on mine also,  but I swapped the rears too. Did you know that the 2 door drum will almost fit inside the 4 door drum. ;D I'm loving the extra braking power with my 33's and the park brake cables are longer also so they have more room for flex.
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Offline Digger

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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2005, 10:54:56 PM »
Biker, what all did you have to swap? Drums, shoes, e-brake stuff and hardware, but what about the cylinders? You had to swap the backing plate, too, right?
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Offline Rhinoman

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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 04:57:10 AM »
I am about to do this swap too but I was let down by the guy who was supposed to sell me the fronts. Do I just need calipers, rotors and pads? Could I just use the calipers if I run the thicker swb pads and my existing rotors?
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
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Offline cj

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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 07:34:35 AM »
Get the rotors as there is a real difference in size plus they are vented. Mine are slotted too.

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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005, 08:07:48 AM »
You will need the bracket that the caliper bolts
to also, you can get the front backing plates too,
that makes it a 100% bolt on swap, tho the old
plates can be tweeked with an adjustable wrench
to fit the 4 door calipers.

I didn't swap the rears, I have little info there.

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Offline biker

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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2005, 08:42:00 PM »
For sure grab the caliper mounts for the front, I just gave the backing plate a slight trim with tin snips and all was good.
For the rear you want the complete backing plate with shoes and cylinder attached and the drums. I grabbed the P/B cables also as they were new on the donor, turns out they are longer also. A bonus I found by using 4door rear brakes is that you don't have to pull off the brake return spring to pull an axle either, one less thing to lose on a trail repair.
Another curious fact I came across doing this is that the 4door rear wheel cylinders are a smaller bore than the 2door ones but the shoes are much larger, probably about 50%. :o
All in all a swap well worth the time and it is all bolt on, no fabbing ;D
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Offline mbmarkyb

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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2005, 03:58:10 AM »
rhinoman , shop around for those front bits , i got quoted some series money when i asked about around a year ago,  I got them from the vit breaker in the end for £80 including the hubs  as i was quoted £200 a side from dakra in kent , bloooming nitemare.

I have just fitted the vented hubs calipers to my sammy axle was suprised when they fittted straight on using the claiper braket too
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Re: brake upgrade
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 04:38:12 AM »
i was quoted £200 a side from dakra in kent , bloooming nitemare.

Yeah, thats why I still have the stock fronts at the moment.
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

OBD1 - Full diagnostics on a PC/Laptop: http://www.rhinopower.org