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Offline darkd

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Hagan widening???
« on: October 20, 2005, 09:38:45 AM »
Hi there,
I´m from Germany and so my English is quite good but not perfect.
Can anybody explain me what a "Hagan Widening" is ???



These 2 pictures where in this article: http://www.zukiworld.com/month_090105/feature_rockyroad_rocksteadylift.htm

Or do they just mean to cut the mudguards?

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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2005, 10:18:02 AM »
Man dont cut anything!  :o :o :o If a job is worth doing its worth doing right. Lift it.
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2005, 11:12:49 AM »
No it's not cutting. I'll try to explain it the easiest way. The "Hagen" widening is named after a member here, Mike Hagen. It means that you relocate the A-arms that hold the wheel. So if you go and lie under the vehicle you see 2 A-arms that connect to the underside of the "wheel" if you look at the back side of those you see that you are able to put them out some at the rear on the crossmember. Effect of this is that the point where your're wheel is will come forward. Look here: http://www.zukiworld.com/month_120102/feature_hagan_frontendmod.htm this is a very good write up on this  ;)
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2005, 12:55:46 AM »
Hi ed,
thank u very much for your answer.
Finally I know what it means. But do I have to do it on both sides? In the article is written just to do it on the right side.
Or was it just because of the modification of the cv shaft?
Thanks,
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2005, 01:02:32 AM »
Do both sides. Your steering may be a little odd if you the angles are different on each side.
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2005, 02:27:16 AM »
And, for you does your vit still have to go through TUV? Because I don't think they'll like it  ;). But I also doubt they'll see it  ;D
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2005, 02:35:43 AM »
Well, TÜV has to be done in 1,5 years, but I don´t think they will see it.
;)
I ve already talked to them and I´ll get TÜV on Bodylift, Coils, Tires. So I just try out.
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2005, 04:50:04 PM »
I am also interested in this mod, but do you need to have the calmini lift and anvil to do it? Do you need to modify axles? I'm bone stock other than 1.75" lift with coil spacers, and would just want to reloacate the a-arms without all the other stuff, is that possible?

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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2005, 06:21:34 PM »
No, the CVs won't fit, they will be too short
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2005, 02:18:54 PM »
So essentially, you are moving out the rear mounting points for both a-arms, and have to also modify BOTH axle shafts? I didn't quite understand how to modify the axle shafts, but then again I have never had mine out....
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2005, 02:31:49 PM »
You can use a spacer on the (US) drivers side to lengthen the drive shaft. On the passenger side the driveshaft is a push in arrangement so you can't use a spacer. Instead you need to modify the set up to fit a drivers side shaft.
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Re: Hagan widening???
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2005, 06:44:32 PM »
I modified the right side like this



I had a spacer made for the other side

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