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Offline bandit86

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aluminum tube buggy?
« on: November 05, 2005, 08:27:13 AM »
If I were to, say, make a tube buggy, out of aluminum, would the weight savings be worth it?  Or how about stainless steel, never worry about rust again?
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2005, 09:03:33 AM »
You must be rolling in the green! Or smokin it.... ;)

I could not even imagine the amount of $$$ needed for a project like either of those 2!! Regular DOM tubing is getting outragious. Aluminum is ungodly as is SS. I would think Aluminum would just break, where as steel would bend, so AL may not be the best idea. Just make sure you plish the SS.  8)
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2005, 09:15:26 AM »
Chief is right when it comes to the $$$$$

     Aluminum is ungodly expensive. In my aircraft projects it's what we use for almost everything...example
- 2" by2' by 1.5' plate....6061-t6
- 12" of 10" round bar...6061-t6
- 8" of 6" round bar.......6061-t6

With paperwork to insure grade and quality    1240.00 CDN

And that was just for the redrive...

Strength is not a problem provided you use the correct alloy and it's correctly assembled.

Weight savings, about 1/3...roughly

Cost...outrageous

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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2005, 01:23:38 PM »
tubular ai??? that sounds like fun.  me an my friend are currently turning a 1 ltr Santana into an autocross car.  weve got some pretty good tyres for the back, colway MTs, similar to BF goody's so ive heard.. and some extreme snow/extreme sand front tyres.. this should make for some good side ways action in 4wd.
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2005, 02:37:31 PM »
I think you'd be better off using regular tubing for the body, doing something to protect it like paint with POR 15, Rust Encapsulator, or Herculiner, and then use fiberglass or lexan for the few body panels necessary.

I saw something like this a while back.  Guy took a Samurai that was all crusty, stripped off the drivetrain, power train, seats, suspension and a few other goodies and built a tube frame and body and paneled it with fiberglass.  It didn't even weigh a ton when he was done with it.

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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2005, 02:38:29 PM »
1240cdn whats that like 20 bucks american ;D

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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2005, 06:29:35 PM »
Hey Suzuki 1.8

     Tell your boss to donate some of your aluminum stock to my cause!


20.00 US...yeah right. LOL

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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2005, 12:23:22 AM »
hmmm 20 USD... whats that....   ::) £5 GBP    HE HE ;)
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2005, 09:51:56 AM »
I don't think the weight savings would be worth the cost and having a weaker chassis than using DOM.

Use chromoly if you want it light ;)
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2005, 10:03:16 AM »
Shoot, bite the bullet and use Titanium, super light, super strong AND won't rust!

Just have your $$$$ ready.

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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2005, 10:09:24 AM »
would carbon fibre work???  ;D that would be nice an light.... dunno if i would like to roll in it though... probably would cost a fair bit too.... just an idea
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2005, 10:11:56 AM »
Shoot, bite the bullet and use Titanium, super light, super strong AND won't rust!

Just have your $$$$ ready.

Titanium is twice the weight of aluminium and much more difficult to work with.
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2005, 02:49:05 PM »
fiberglass tube buggy?
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2005, 03:18:29 AM »
Shoot, bite the bullet and use Titanium, super light, super strong AND won't rust!

Just have your $$$$ ready.
Except it's really brittle, so it probably wouldn't work out too well :P
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Re: aluminum tube buggy?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2005, 08:19:24 AM »
I feel the need to educate.
DOM is mild steel, just seamless and heavy wall,
no special alloys or any fancy stuff.

Chromolly is the way to go for strength
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