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Offline Twan013

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Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« on: November 21, 2005, 09:33:44 AM »
Hey guys, i don't know if anyone else has seen this, but Rocky Road has more info on the rockfather kit!  they still don't have a date or price, but at least they're making progress...  they're using high angle CV's, and stronger axles (birfields?)....   now here's the fun part (for the extreme guys)...  if you take this 6 inch full suspension kit, add a 3 inch body lift, you'll have 9 inches.... correct me if i'm wrong, but that means you can put 35's on with no problems, right?  but isn't 33's the biggest recommended tire for the trac/kick? as far as the diff's go and stuff.. and how would the engine turn something that big??  here's my solution, if i had a bottomless pocket full of cash... 4.3 liter and matching transmission, (would i have to change the t-case also? or will the original work?)... t-case gears, ring and pionion gears, ARBed front and rear....  35" boggers.... ya know, the ones that just have the lugs going pretty much straight out, with no siping or anything like that?  oh yeah, FIND a way to upgrade the $|removethispart|@#! out of the brakes somehow or another...

anyway, just thought i'd throw out that piece of info about the kit

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Offline chet

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2005, 10:51:56 AM »
unless someone comes out with the 5.89:1 diff gears again going with large tires will mean using a samurai tcase behind the kick case to get the gearing correct.

Looks like they are going to offer a good kit though. Coil overs are something I was looking at. With some simple upgrades to the strut towers they could be run pretty easily.
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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2005, 11:38:30 AM »
quoting RRO's "in the works" page about updated news

Rockfather suspension:First off, there is no set pricing or release date yet. We will post the information as soon as we know anything for certain. Asking us for information on this will not result in any real answers at this time unfortunately.
The main news is that we have made a major design change to the system which we feel will greatly improve the overall design. This change will cause the price to go up, but for those serious enough to do a 6" lift... you'll want these anyway. High angle CV joints will be used. These will allow the extreme amoutn of lift to be run WITHOUT having to drop the front differential. This means no loss of clearance on the front by having to drop the 3rd member to run stock axles. Our new axles will be FAR stronger than stock (the birfields are guaranteed against breakage), and will handle the angles with no problems at all. This may not seem like a major development, but check out those lifted Toyotas and Chevys with their whole front suspension dropped way below the frame to keep the stock axles happy. Our setup will mean you've got monster clearance and stronger axles.
2nd piece of news is that we will be using a coilover/strut assembly. Again, a bit more costly, but you'll be able to change out your springs easily to different spring rates, adjust the height up or down on the front end a couple inches. Just a far cry better than the spearate strut/spring setup our competition overcharges for... this suspension will make your vehicle world-class!



So who wants to start guessing on price??

I say $1800.
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Shrockworks bar & sliders, Full skid plates
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Offline Twan013

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2005, 03:54:35 PM »
I WOULD say mid-2's.... but i don't really know much about the components and stuff.... just enough to know that 6 inches without dropping the diff's is a plus!!   hopefully they'll have an introductory discount (or like a beta test thingy) and i'll have real good timing and get a kit for pretty cheap

I was thinking about doing that "budget lift" on zuwharrie, 3 inch body, 2 inch coil spacers from a jeep... but since it seems like they're getting closer to finishing this, i might wait... if i go with a body lift, and decide to take it off later, will it cause problems?  like, i know that if i do the gas tank lift, I would have to basically reverse the whole thing and all that stuff... but if i cut the skid plate, will it not mess it up when i try to put it back in the original location?   i may just do the coil spacers and get 235's until they finish the kit...  any advice guys?

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2005, 04:26:22 PM »
a 2" body lift can be reversed easily in my opinion.  The gas tank thing could be a pain if you cut anything stock out of it
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3" hybrid Calmini/OME lift, 2" B/L, Rear air locker
Shrockworks bar & sliders, Full skid plates
4.24:1 t-case
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Offline Agent Orange

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2005, 06:10:49 PM »
i wouldn't count on seeing this kit anytime soon. it's been 65 million years in the making.

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2005, 11:43:05 PM »
i wouldn't count on seeing this kit anytime soon. it's been 65 million years in the making.

  ;D


That's called 'Evolution'...  ;)
But I'd like to see those upgraded CV's and know if you can buy these parts seperately.....
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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2005, 06:10:47 AM »
* yawn *

I hear they're doing belly armor "real soon", too...

Dear Glenn Wakefield,

  Shut your pie hole, and start delivering stuff, instead of feeding us another line of BS.

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2005, 03:31:30 PM »

I hear they're doing belly armor "real soon", too...


I'll have front skid plates and gas tank skids ready to ship next month........no "evolutionary" wait times......just good products.


Sean (Making more Track/Kick stuff soon!) DeVinney

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2005, 04:59:50 PM »
Sean where do you live ???
You got a PM

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2005, 01:14:51 PM »
Not to hi-jack the thread nut sean can you give us some info on the skids?

thanks!!

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2005, 03:10:51 PM »
I badly want to see this kit. You me I could fit 31's without a body lift??? SWEEEEEEET
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Offline Twan013

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2005, 04:07:25 PM »
yeah, i should know better than to get my hopes up.... this thing has been "in the final stages of developement" for as long as i can remember, i know at least a year, because that's about the time i started looking into trackers and sidekicks...  I would hate to know what it was like when they first got the idea and put it on their site...  but i'm with deathrunner.... just the idea of 31's or 32's with no body lift is just amazing!!  and even better, the fact that you don't have to drop the front diff.!!

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2005, 06:09:25 PM »
Not to hi-jack the thread nut sean can you give us some info on the skids?

thanks!!

Strong, steel, durable.....an undercairrage saver!......gas tank and the front skid plate. Release date is next month for the first production run.

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« Last Edit: November 25, 2005, 04:59:51 AM by aftermarket4x4 »

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Re: Update on the RockFather (RRO)
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2005, 08:11:06 AM »
Why do they have such a problem with dropping the front diff a couple inches, I don't get it? If they designed a bolt on frame system to drop the whole IFS setup 6" I wouldn't care.