Just installed the 1.6 8v motor into my sami. I used the RRO kit that came with an adapter plate, motor mount, a shim, and hardware. I'm using the 1.3 8v head, which has a 32/36 weber carb. I believe its the stock carb but all the part stores pulled up a Hitachi carb as stock in their computers when i rebuilt it.
When I close the hood it hits the stud that holds the intake to the carb. Needs another 1/2" or so and the stud isn't a replacement that's to long. I've read and re-read everything RRO sent and re-read the webpage looking for "body-lift" but didn't see anything. I sent RRO an e-mail but sometimes they beat around the bush with their reply's.
Anyone have any ideas what I should do? As of now the hoods' gonna be taken off to drive it.    
I can only think of two options. Cut any extra length the stud may have and hope the intake fits under the hood. Or get a body lift which I don't want to do. I'll try to get some decent pictures and post em.
Thanks,
Parker.

Body lift pushes a lot of weight upwards, I would fit a hood scoop/power bulge. If cash is tight then an inverted roasting tray looks OK sprayed up.

I will not modify the hood, I really want to keep the stock look. Plus I have a 16v head that's eventually going in.
I've searched around unsuccessfully for any helpful info. Someone has to know something as the 1.6 is pretty damn popular.
Thanks,
Parker.

Dodge 318 mounts will lower the engine enough for the hood to clear.  On the one I did, I used a 2266 on one side and a 2265 on the other side, along with a combo of trackick and samurai block brackets to get the engine to sit level and low enough to clear the hood.

Gary at Petroworks has custom engine mounts that lowers the engine to
fit under the hood, and they swap in 16V engines all the time, give them a call

Dodge 318 mounts are about $5 each, BTW.

Just installed the 1.6 8v motor into my sami. I used the RRO kit that came with an adapter plate, motor mount, a shim, and hardware. I'm using the 1.3 8v head, which has a 32/36 weber carb. I believe its the stock carb but all the part stores pulled up a Hitachi carb as stock in their computers when i rebuilt it.
When I close the hood it hits the stud that holds the intake to the carb. Needs another 1/2" or so and the stud isn't a replacement that's to long. I've read and re-read everything RRO sent and re-read the webpage looking for "body-lift" but didn't see anything. I sent RRO an e-mail but sometimes they beat around the bush with their reply's.
Anyone have any ideas what I should do? As of now the hoods' gonna be taken off to drive it.    
I can only think of two options. Cut any extra length the stud may have and hope the intake fits under the hood. Or get a body lift which I don't want to do. I'll try to get some decent pictures and post em.
Thanks,
Parker.

You could get the smaller square filter element and put that on your Weber. I run that on the GI Jane project w/1.6 and have no clearance problems. I think there is a picture of it in the article that is accessible through the Archive.

-Eric

Guys, thanks for the interest. Still haven't herd anything from RRO.
So everyone has kind of over looked an issue I'd like to clear. The 32/36 progressive Weber carb is the correct carb?

Dodge 318 mounts will lower the engine enough for the hood to clear.  On the one I did, I used a 2266 on one side and a 2265 on the other side, along with a combo of trackick and samurai block brackets to get the engine to sit level and low enough to clear the hood.

Originally I wanted to use the dodge mounts and I thought I ordered JUST the transmission adapter plate but got motor mounts with the purchase so figured I'd just use the CAD LASER DESIGN GOOBER motor mount and shim. 
Besides cutting a junker hood, hacking at the intake to fit over the choke not the plenum, and lifting the body; dodge mounts would be MONEY if they work. I don't know of any other options right now.
How does the fan sit in the shroud? As of now if I want to keep my shroud I can't lower the motor anymore, not that its a huge deal to have it on. From what I gathered setting up the my motor mounts, I can't use the 1.6 brackets with the 1.3 rubber, so if you can remember, what was the combination of samurai and sidekick-ness did you use? Or did you just drill out the 1.6 mounts to fit the 1.3 rubber?

Gary at Petroworks has custom engine mounts that lowers the engine to
fit under the hood, and they swap in 16V engines all the time, give them a call

I was under the impression that the RRO mounts would make everything peachy. If the dodge mounts don't fit I'll give them a call. Any experience on the motor mounts petroworks sells? RRO says something about their competitors motor mounts acting like race car mounts and being quite stiff.
And I was thinking, the 16v head is like an inch and a half taller than the 8v head and I don't exactly know if the hood would clear the valve cover. If I find out that you cant even fit the 16v with the RRO kit I'll all together stop ordering anything from them. The way they market the stuff they fabricate is a little over spoken and "golden" in their eyes, in my eyes its just a form of dishonestly that I'd stay away from. I've ordered a few fabricated things they've built and everything has needed some from of work from me to work. The adapter plate for instance, the hole drilled for the raise was JUST big enough to pound and wedge into place, I've punched bearing into things with much much more ease than that damn raise. The motor mount needed re-drilled to fit the bolts, along with an alternator mount I purchased a while ago. Now I'm turning into a vendor reviewer because of frustration... Sorry.

You could get the smaller square filter element and put that on your Weber. I run that on the GI Jane project w/1.6 and have no clearance problems. I think there is a picture of it in the article that is accessible through the Archive.

-Eric

I tried thinking of some smaller filter that may make the hood fit, but nothing came up in my or 2 other buddies brains that would make it work. Plus eventually I'd like to get a snorkel. I'll give your profile a look and see what you've done.

So everyone has kind of over looked an issue I'd like to clear. The 32/36 progressive Weber carb is the correct carb?

Samurais didn't have a weber as a stock carb.  So no, what you have is not stock.

Dodge 318 mounts will lower the engine enough for the hood to clear.  On the one I did, I used a 2266 on one side and a 2265 on the other side, along with a combo of trackick and samurai block brackets to get the engine to sit level and low enough to clear the hood.

Originally I wanted to use the dodge mounts and I thought I ordered JUST the transmission adapter plate but got motor mounts with the purchase so figured I'd just use the CAD LASER DESIGN GOOBER motor mount and shim. 
How does the fan sit in the shroud? As of now if I want to keep my shroud I can't lower the motor anymore, not that its a huge deal to have it on. From what I gathered setting up the my motor mounts, I can't use the 1.6 brackets with the 1.3 rubber, so if you can remember, what was the combination of samurai and sidekick-ness did you use? Or did you just drill out the 1.6 mounts to fit the 1.3 rubber?

You will have to cut the shroud.
passengers side...trackick block mount, 318 car rubber mount (turned sideways, to compensate for the offset), samurai frame mount.
drivers side...samurai block mount, 318 truck rubber mount, samurai frame mount.

I was under the impression that the RRO mounts would make everything peachy. If the dodge mounts don't fit I'll give them a call. Any experience on the motor mounts petroworks sells? RRO says something about their competitors motor mounts acting like race car mounts and being quite stiff.
And I was thinking, the 16v head is like an inch and a half taller than the 8v head and I don't exactly know if the hood would clear the valve cover. If I find out that you cant even fit the 16v with the RRO kit I'll all together stop ordering anything from them. The way they market the stuff they fabricate is a little over spoken and "golden" in their eyes, in my eyes its just a form of dishonestly that I'd stay away from. I've ordered a few fabricated things they've built and everything has needed some from of work from me to work. The adapter plate for instance, the hole drilled for the raise was JUST big enough to pound and wedge into place, I've punched bearing into things with much much more ease than that damn raise. The motor mount needed re-drilled to fit the bolts, along with an alternator mount I purchased a while ago. Now I'm turning into a vendor reviewer because of frustration... Sorry.

RRO likes to trash other vendors products to make theirs look/sound better.  But as most people have found, RRO is crap.  Although, some of their stuff seems to be ok.  But a lot of it seems to have crappy welds, poor quality, poor fitment, etc.

Thank you good info here.

Samurais didn't have a weber as a stock carb.  So no, what you have is not stock.

You will have to cut the shroud.
passengers side...trackick block mount, 318 car rubber mount (turned sideways, to compensate for the offset), samurai frame mount.
drivers side...samurai block mount, 318 truck rubber mount, samurai frame mount.

RRO likes to trash other vendors products to make theirs look/sound better.  But as most people have found, RRO is crap.  Although, some of their stuff seems to be ok.  But a lot of it seems to have crappy welds, poor quality, poor fitment, etc.

As far as fabricated pieces go, who do you recommend? Or I guess who's your favorite vendor?

I wonder if I should try finding a stock carb and seeing what that does for me. Maybe the carb and plenum is just to tall and since its not stock maybe the dodge mounts won't help me? Doubt ill get an anwser but has anyone used the dodge rubber with a Weber 32/36 progressive barrel carb? what is the stock carb?

Thank you good info here.

Quote from: Skyhiranger on July 20, 2011, 10:49:20 AM

Samurais didn't have a weber as a stock carb.  So no, what you have is not stock.

You will have to cut the shroud.
passengers side...trackick block mount, 318 car rubber mount (turned sideways, to compensate for the offset), samurai frame mount.
drivers side...samurai block mount, 318 truck rubber mount, samurai frame mount.

RRO likes to trash other vendors products to make theirs look/sound better.  But as most people have found, RRO is crap.  Although, some of their stuff seems to be ok.  But a lot of it seems to have crappy welds, poor quality, poor fitment, etc.

As far as fabricated pieces go, who do you recommend? Or I guess who's your favorite vendor?

I wonder if I should try finding a stock carb and seeing what that does for me. Maybe the carb and plenum is just to tall and since its not stock maybe the dodge mounts won't help me? Doubt ill get an anwser but has anyone used the dodge rubber with a Weber 32/36 progressive barrel carb? what is the stock carb?

Did you look at the pictures of the GI Jane project? (egg on my face... I just went and looked and the pictures are of when that had a stock carb and air box on it) BUT, I've got the simple chrome air cleaner and element now with the Weber and there is no fit problem. That engine is exactly / drivetrain is exactly what you've got going on. All you have to do is buy a $25 Weber air cleaner holder and element and you're golden... Easy peeeze lemon squeezy

Article: http://www.zukiworld.com/month_020103/feature_gijane.htm



-Eric

Thank you good info here.

Quote from: Skyhiranger on July 20, 2011, 10:49:20 AM

RRO likes to trash other vendors products to make theirs look/sound better.  But as most people have found, RRO is crap.  Although, some of their stuff seems to be ok.  But a lot of it seems to have crappy welds, poor quality, poor fitment, etc.

As far as fabricated pieces go, who do you recommend? Or I guess who's your favorite vendor?

Myself.  I make everything I can for my rigs.  And I buy stuff used, that I can't fab (like lockers, gears, etc.).  That's not saying there aren't good vendors out there that make good products and have good customer service.  But at this point, I'd rather make my own stuff, instead of pay someone to make it for me.  That way if it doesn't fit, doesn't work, looks like crap, breaks, etc., I only have myself to blame and don't have to go through the hassle of dealing with a vendor to fix the problem and/or go vendor bashing.
So I can't really recommend a vendor, since I don't really buy anything (much) from vendors.  Just do some searching on the various zuk boards and on the internet in general and you will get a good idea on who makes good products and has good customer service and who doesn't.

Quote from: rbparker on July 20, 2011, 12:29:16 PM

Thank you good info here.

Quote from: Skyhiranger on July 20, 2011, 10:49:20 AM

Samurais didn't have a weber as a stock carb.  So no, what you have is not stock.

You will have to cut the shroud.
passengers side...trackick block mount, 318 car rubber mount (turned sideways, to compensate for the offset), samurai frame mount.
drivers side...samurai block mount, 318 truck rubber mount, samurai frame mount.

RRO likes to trash other vendors products to make theirs look/sound better.  But as most people have found, RRO is crap.  Although, some of their stuff seems to be ok.  But a lot of it seems to have crappy welds, poor quality, poor fitment, etc.

As far as fabricated pieces go, who do you recommend? Or I guess who's your favorite vendor?

I wonder if I should try finding a stock carb and seeing what that does for me. Maybe the carb and plenum is just to tall and since its not stock maybe the dodge mounts won't help me? Doubt ill get an anwser but has anyone used the dodge rubber with a Weber 32/36 progressive barrel carb? what is the stock carb?

Did you look at the pictures of the GI Jane project? (egg on my face... I just went and looked and the pictures are of when that had a stock carb and air box on it) BUT, I've got the simple chrome air cleaner and element now with the Weber and there is no fit problem. That engine is exactly / drivetrain is exactly what you've got going on. All you have to do is buy a $25 Weber air cleaner holder and element and you're golden... Easy peeeze lemon squeezy

Article: http://www.zukiworld.com/month_020103/feature_gijane.htm



-Eric

Awesome! thanks ill be sure to order one of those filters.