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Offline bzzr2

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2006, 11:16:27 AM »
do you know the specs for the xl7 spring?  how much stiffer are they and how much taller?  i need a stiffer rear spring as i'm often loaded up with crap and on the road...
03-ZR2, 2dr, 31x10.5 SSR's & stuff...--sold :-(
03 xl7, jeff's 2inch spacer lift, 225/75/16's; sold
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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2006, 07:04:23 PM »
Okay... I tried the 245/75/16" MTR's on one wheel and tried it on the front and rear passanger side wheels

lets start w/ the rear:


not bad... managable

Here is the front wheel:



still looks good :D

until

turning inwards:


It gets jammed on the front bumper and the plastics....
No worries, I'll remove it (either cut or just remove all the c-clips and remove the entire thing, and trim the bumper)

turning outwards:



aw... fcuk looks like I'm just mm's from hitting my body (which is metal)

once I get past that little scary part, it's alright:



Here is just to show slight compression on the rear wheel



So far.... looks like I can manage with my "rear" but the front, will definately require some trimming, and I "need" to figure out something regarding the body

Any suggestions?
Or just leave the tires for now, and body lift it?

Oh yes it does rub the frame on full "lock"
« Last Edit: October 24, 2006, 07:09:07 PM by r3cc0s »
03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2006, 08:27:22 PM »
OK the front wheels when u turn them look to look with the 29.5" u will need to that black plastci piece either cut it or take a heat gun and a bucket of water and say a piece of wood heat it push it with the wood then slam the water on it.

The rear piece near the door jam take that piece off and the mounting tab either take a hammer and move it and then sand it and paint it. Or bend it and remount the splash shield so the steel pulls it back more
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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2006, 08:29:55 PM »
What spacers are in the front of ur truck? Can u take a pic of the strut a side shot?
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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2006, 07:05:12 AM »
I'm running no wheel spacers at this time

I will be installing a set of 1 1/4" wheel spacers in the front, but I'm still skeptical...
One.. that will pull the wheel out that much further,  so yes it will "fix" the frame rub issue

but by pulling it out, it will likely rub more against the body and the bumper

Today I'm going to see if I can remove the plastic entirely and start cutting the bumper, however...

I'm thinking it's time for a Body Lift
03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2006, 03:58:29 PM »
More fun:

Ripped apart my front end to pull out the plastic "splash guards"



Put it back all nice & tidy and threw the 245 MTRs on



The front bumper still hits, but that will be trimmed in an hour or so

The rear definately has more room, and there is a "slight" ability to grind, only thing is
I'd like to mod my splash guard to protect the inside of the body so I don't get rusting from inside the fender

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/r3cc0s/zuki018.jpg

a little bump -
« Last Edit: October 25, 2006, 09:40:28 PM by r3cc0s »
03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2006, 05:41:32 PM »
Yeap i got 1" and it does hit the outer skirts more. But put the fender skirts back in. Go mudding a few times and ur door hinges and door seal are gonna be fucked up bad.. Just cut the front and put them back in.
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New project H27 in the GV goal 200 Wheel Horse Power  JPB 1.75"front 2" rear Grand Vitra lifts  www.jbauto.ca[/url]

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2006, 05:59:52 PM »
Yup, definately going to fix up the "splash guards" just need to go buy some clips seeing how I had to bust most of them

I'm going to bend in the remenants of the fender lip on by the door jam and pull out the tabs and cut the splash guards to fit

Here I am grinding away what I need and I pulled the bumper off again so that we I can do a good finishing job on it

03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2006, 06:02:17 PM »
Yeap i got 1" and it does hit the outer skirts more. But put the fender skirts back in. Go mudding a few times and ur door hinges and door seal are gonna be fucked up bad.. Just cut the front and put them back in.

Right now I can "deal" with the frame rub, and am looking to limit my steering rather than going with spacers

From what I understand, the wheel "arc" is increased w/ the spacers, and thusly I could likely rub my tires against the outer fender far easier

then again we'll see, ngrover is going to order up a set, and I will be bending in the fenders so... I might be just that lucky
03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2006, 08:12:29 AM »
Looks like this Sunday I'm going to be using an angle grinder and mallet to clean up the front and might look at getting some JC Whitney flares

The rear definately needs more lift, and I will also be installing a 1" coil spacer on the bottem of the coil (and try to source an XL7 or just buy a set of 1'5" procomp lifting springs)
Also will have to trim the splash guard towards the bumper and parts of the bumper
Doesn't seem I have the ability to put a flare on wheel well, as there is't much to work with

This is how it looks as of now
and I'm going to order the BL shortly

« Last Edit: October 27, 2006, 12:48:26 PM by r3cc0s »
03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2006, 06:26:16 PM »
Just forwarning u if u lift the rear more then 2.5" be prepaird to loose ur rear brake line. One guy here did man right wheel came down and ripped the line out.
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New project H27 in the GV goal 200 Wheel Horse Power  JPB 1.75"front 2" rear Grand Vitra lifts  www.jbauto.ca[/url]

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2006, 06:50:45 PM »
or do what i did and cut your cables some more slack by undoing some of the clips and securing them with zip-ties when your wheels are fully dropped.

the amount of strain (if any) you can potentially put on your brake lines has nothing to do with the coil or the spacers you add to your coils... it depends on the amount of extension you get out of the shocks you're running. In my case I'm running Toyota 4-Runner shocks in the rear and I had to make a couple tweaks to the brake lines.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2006, 08:15:25 PM by ngrover »
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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2006, 10:42:28 PM »
well... it snowed and it snowed pretty good
Got down to -11c and we got plenty of blowing snow and Ice

I belive we had an accumulated total of around 4-5" of snow

So today I was unable to attached my newly cut front bumper cover and I had to drive around
here goes:

Drove around at first, and it was "sketchy" w/ my Goodyear MT/R's
Then I forgot, oh snap it was inflated to 35 PSI - my bad

Deflated down to roughly 23 PSI and had to drive some friends to the airport w/ about 150 lbs of luggage and 5 passengers
-Drove just great! in 2wd I had no problems getting around

Once I dropped them off, man was it sketchy on 2wd, had to throw it back to 4wd

Got home and looked at the tires, well... it is a 245/75/16 E-Rated (10 ply) tire and with nobody in the vehicle, the sidewalls didn't even budge at all

I decided to run them at 19 PSI, noticed the bottem (touching part) of the tire was a bit flatter, but still barely any sidewall budge
Well that seems to be my "ideal" number
I can ride mostly in 2wd in slick roads just fine, and 4wd in real tough conditions

In fact I went a bit wheeling this evening, and went up some pretty deep snow drifts of roughly 3 feet deep and w/ enough speed, I didn't have any problems

So far happy as heck, considering the traction I am getting from running Mud tires on a light vehicle
03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2006, 10:45:45 PM »
or do what i did and cut your cables some more slack by undoing some of the clips and securing them with zip-ties when your wheels are fully dropped.

the amount of strain (if any) you can potentially put on your brake lines has nothing to do with the coil or the spacers you add to your coils... it depends on the amount of extension you get out of the shocks you're running. In my case I'm running Toyota 4-Runner shocks in the rear and I had to make a couple tweaks to the brake lines.

Neil, looks like that is the option, but I am definately looking at picking up some longer springs
I'm thinking of ordering those XL7 springs from the junker if it truely does give us "1" more height

As for the front of my car, I'm still looking to see how I can trim the fender... I might just trim it, and fab up my own plastic splash guard and pick up some fender flares

in due time I guess
03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs

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Re: Lifted the GV
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2006, 06:51:46 AM »
I don't know if the XL-7 springs will get you lift up front as they have a lower spring rate than the GV in the rear they might.