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Offline sergi

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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2006, 03:07:18 PM »
Wow, very nice car, the JDMCRX's kit looks to be working great. How much actual lift did you get right now? What is the distance from the top of the rim to the fender? If we all measure like this we can compare suspension  lift accurately, without bigger tires...
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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #76 on: July 13, 2006, 04:20:48 PM »
My .02 cents this vehicle has macpherson struts there is alot of force applied to the strut. So little pieces of sand get in there and cut the seals up in the shock. I sent u 2 rancho strut boots they go ontop with the washer and the bottom zip ties on. I see alot of tracker guys here no dust boots and they screw there struts up they start leaking and other that have boots no probs. my .02 cents.

looks good.
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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2006, 07:25:30 PM »
Wow, very nice car, the JDMCRX's kit looks to be working great. How much actual lift did you get right now? What is the distance from the top of the rim to the fender? If we all measure like this we can compare suspension  lift accurately, without bigger tires...

Thanks, we're quite pleased with it.

You know, to be honest, I forgot to take any measurements before I put the lift on.  However the difference is visually noticeable and the wife has now told me it's not getting any taller.  She's too short (5'2")...you should see her trying to get into my Ranger or the Tracker... ;) ;D

The distance from the top of the front rims to the edge of the fender above them looks like just about 12".

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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #78 on: July 16, 2006, 09:57:32 PM »
Wow, very nice car, the JDMCRX's kit looks to be working great. How much actual lift did you get right now? What is the distance from the top of the rim to the fender? If we all measure like this we can compare suspension  lift accurately, without bigger tires...

Thanks, we're quite pleased with it.

You know, to be honest, I forgot to take any measurements before I put the lift on.  However the difference is visually noticeable and the wife has now told me it's not getting any taller.  She's too short (5'2")...you should see her trying to get into my Ranger or the Tracker... ;) ;D

The distance from the top of the front rims to the edge of the fender above them looks like just about 12".

my boondox lift is noticable too only I wish i had more lift now but my new tires will make it taller. aren't your front spacers like 1.75'' or something and the back 2 inch? mine are 2 inch at the tallest part and 1.5 at the lowest and I'm pretty sure they did more than 1.5 inches in the back.

I might get some shock boots for my struts cause they were so uber spendy and I will clean my shocks from now on
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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #79 on: July 17, 2006, 04:27:20 AM »
I beleive JDMCRX makes them so they are 2" front and rear installed.  With the lever affect of the front suspension 1.5" of spacer = 2" or so at the wheel.  The rear just gains whatever height you wedge in there.

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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #80 on: July 17, 2006, 10:20:48 AM »
I beleive JDMCRX makes them so they are 2" front and rear installed.  With the lever affect of the front suspension 1.5" of spacer = 2" or so at the wheel.  The rear just gains whatever height you wedge in there.


I just read that his 1.5 spacers lift the front 1.75 inches and the bck is a 2 inch lift but yours looks pretty level. I am pretty sure maple bar used his lift and his looks leaning forward a tadd.

I am kind of wishing I would have got the same spacers as you but oh well
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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #81 on: July 17, 2006, 03:01:03 PM »
We may not agree on a few 4x4 things but I will say his spacers are good stuff.  They fit very well and worked nicely.  If I had to do it again I'd have gone another route but that's not JDMCRX or his product's fault.  His service was good and the product is excellent.

My front coils aren't turned correctly.  Meaning their lower ends aren't up against the stop for them that's cast into the lower control arm.  I just couldn't turn them enough to get them in.  That MIGHT have mine sitting a bit higher in the front...not sure.  Not to worried about it anyways.

Off to go give the little beastie an oil change and tire rotation.

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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #82 on: July 18, 2006, 05:28:57 PM »
Maroon Monsoon,

When are we going to see some pics of this rig of yours? I've been following this for 6 pages now lets see this bad boy!!!!! :)
I just finished my lift, 3" front and 3 1/4 " rear, the 3" body lift has been fabricated and I am just waiting for my extended brake lines to be fabbed by a local shop and I will slap it on ,bolt on my 32's and post some pics. :)

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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #83 on: July 18, 2006, 08:01:57 PM »
Maroon Monsoon,

When are we going to see some pics of this rig of yours? I've been following this for 6 pages now lets see this bad boy!!!!! :)
I just finished my lift, 3" front and 3 1/4 " rear, the 3" body lift has been fabricated and I am just waiting for my extended brake lines to be fabbed by a local shop and I will slap it on ,bolt on my 32's and post some pics. :)

Lowrezolution


I had a post about it and put up a few pics. didn't want to interfere with ajm's post but here's a pic

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/719871

I'd like to see some pics of yours, sounds like it's pretty cool
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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #84 on: October 17, 2006, 11:07:28 PM »
Well it's done.  The camber isn't perfect but it's close.  I'm not worried.  Toe and caster are MUCH better than they were...which I bet was the factory "settings" after 44,000 miles.

Drives nice and rides nice.



Anybody who used a spacer lift notice theirs sits a little nose high or appears to?  I'm kinda hoping the springs settle some more after sitting for a day and a half with almost no weight on them.  Maybe it's just the way the body looks, dunno. ???

Sorry to re-hash old stuff... but yes after installing Josh's spacers... my front end seems to sit slightly higher

I also tried following Josh's instructions by slotting the top bolt on the strut... and I still can't get the camber right, I even slotted it 6mm towards the strut and it still sits rather "toe out"


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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #85 on: October 18, 2006, 03:19:20 AM »
Camber and Toe are two different things requiring different adjustments. What are you trying to correct?

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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #86 on: October 18, 2006, 06:40:15 AM »
My wheels are like this: \ /

The alignment seems just fine, it tracks straight and doesn't pull at all

I already slotted the uppper strut bolt 6mm towards the strut and at first it looked fine, but now it's starting to stick out

I'm thinking either it's the strut bolt being loose, or .... something is messed up
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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #87 on: October 18, 2006, 03:57:55 PM »
i just did the same lift (strut extenders instead of strut spacers) and i have positive camber as well \ /

i filed the top bolt hole on the bottom strut mount inward far enough that the knuckle could be pushed in so that it hit the strut.... ie if i filed the hole any bigger it wouldn't matter as the knuckle can't go any further in-ward at the top. I'm thinking I'll need to either grind a bit off the knucke where it hits the strut or file the bottom bolt holes outward (have to think about this, not sure if there are negative consequesnces of doing that).... or, someone will enlighten me as to what i've done differently than everyone else (sans r3cc0s).

otherwise, i'm pumped! looks cool. The BDS strut extenders were a royal pain in the arse until i re-read AJMBLAZERS cardomain profile and took notice of this statement: "I had to turn down the first step of the strut past the threads just a bit in order for the extender to slide over." Upon first glance I had no idea what he was talking about... but by now I've learned the hard way what he meant. I had to do the same thing to both my struts to get the extenders to thread on.

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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #88 on: October 19, 2006, 07:57:19 AM »
Looking |removethispart|@ http://www.puresuzuki.com/vehicle_pics.htm

It appears even with the Calmini lift that the front wheel wells seems to have more space than the rear... looks alot like mine (I'll post pics soon)

I'm going to see how much I can adjust the strut to see if I can get a little bit less positive camber, but if grinding is required... Well, Neil come by Dan's place on Saturday morning as he said he'd help look into it again
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Re: GV likely goes under the knife the first weekend in June
« Reply #89 on: October 19, 2006, 07:33:49 PM »
i just did the same lift (strut extenders instead of strut spacers) and i have positive camber as well \ /

i filed the top bolt hole on the bottom strut mount inward far enough that the knuckle could be pushed in so that it hit the strut.... ie if i filed the hole any bigger it wouldn't matter as the knuckle can't go any further in-ward at the top. I'm thinking I'll need to either grind a bit off the knucke where it hits the strut or file the bottom bolt holes outward (have to think about this, not sure if there are negative consequesnces of doing that).... or, someone will enlighten me as to what i've done differently than everyone else (sans r3cc0s).

otherwise, i'm pumped! looks cool. The BDS strut extenders were a royal pain in the arse until i re-read AJMBLAZERS cardomain profile and took notice of this statement: "I had to turn down the first step of the strut past the threads just a bit in order for the extender to slide over." Upon first glance I had no idea what he was talking about... but by now I've learned the hard way what he meant. I had to do the same thing to both my struts to get the extenders to thread on.



Dan had grinded the strut 6mm inwards on the upper top bolt, and like your problem, we can only push the knuckle so far...
I tried pushing it in as far as I could and tightened it w/ a breaker bar... to no luck

looks like we'll have to grind this weekend -> i'm heading out to Dan's in the morning and he has a small 4.5" angle grinder that should do the trick

Just wondering if anyone can suggest how much to "grind" off the knuckle?
03' 2.0L CAMI Tracker w/ 1.5" Front Spacers, 2" Rear Spacers, 1 & 1/4" poly-rubber rear spacer w/ hose clamps, Monroe Crown Vic interceptor rear shocks,1/4" bumpstop extenders, 1.5" strut Extenders, removal of sway bar and strut bar + plenty of cutting for 245/75/16 Goodyear MTRs