see what you started milk

The swaybar is a big spring, to be precise its a torsion spring. In a straight line it has no effect and if both wheels hit the same bump then only the main springs react. Under cornering the springs work against each other, one compresses and the other extends. The torsion bar twists and this adds a great deal of extra springing to the suspension. Manufacturers fit them to give good cornering ability with a softer ride. The main springs would have to be very hard indeed to negate the effect of the swaybar which would reduce your flex again and put you pretty much back where you started.
Removing the swaybar will make it less stable in corners. I don't believe it is any more dangerous IF you modify your driving style to compensate. A 57 Chevy is less stable through corners than a new Ferrari but that doesn't make it dangerous.
There is one issue that no one has mentioned so far. How would your insurance company react if you were involved in an accident?
Disconnects are the way to go IMHO but it needs to be done in a way that doesn't effect the normal operation of the bar.

1) Anti-Swaybars keep our trucks running "flatter" and more stable in corners. People who race frequently put on BIG bars 'cause they're very affective at reducing body-roll.

2) Anyone found someone that will do quick disconnects yet? If not - can I just unbolt the bar when I go wheeling, and bolt it back on when I'm done?

I just took off my sway bar because i stipped out the threads that you thread the bolts into on the frame and it does allot better with the new shocks adn struts that I used with my lift than it did stock with crappy shocks and struts. I just wish my ome struts were stiffer so it would do even better.

taking it off and putting it back on will likely make you end up stripping it out like I did. I don't know about 1st gens but you can forget about making disconnects on a 2nd gen because the bar will not swing back far enough. I have thought of a quick disconnect idea but I'm not sure if it would be strong enough, I'll draw it out and post it.. it's not conventional at all...

hey guys.... i dont THINK anyone had mentioned this, and im thinking your all talkin about vits/track jobbies....

i have a sami.... would it make any difference if i removed my sway bar? being solid axle an all.... or does it only really make a difference on IFS

im running 4" lift on stock springs, stock shocks on 31's....

Andy.... and the speed limit in my island is 35mph.... dont always stick to it... but meh... not really a place for speeding...

i have a sami.... would it make any difference if i removed my sway bar? being solid axle an all.... or does it only really make a difference on IFS

im running 4" lift on stock springs, stock shocks on 31's....

Andy.... and the speed limit in my island is 35mph.... dont always stick to it... but meh... not really a place for speeding...

Overall the effect will be the same on a Sammy, more articulation, less stability. Most people find that the Sammy is affected less by the removal of the sway bar as the springs are much stiffer (relatively) than a Track/Kick.
35mph, that sucks!

oh cool... think i'll try it anyway... just had a go at the bolts... and there all rusted through... so think ill just make it a permenant job and angle grind the lot off

yeah... its sucks major ass.... its kinda hard to stick too... ive been taken off the roads, 2 month ban... which sucks... but, it gave me the time to lift my ZUKI!!  and i got the time to sand it all down respray her now... and im thinking about removable doors... undecided yet... but thats not for this topic... anyways, cheers for the advice... time to start grindin!!!

Andy

My two cents....ditch it!  I use mine for a fire poker in the bon-fire pit now!! lol
I drive a ton on road and don't notice the difference.

Removing the bar in ANY vehicle will allow for more artriculation. You'll notice beter flex - not as extreme as IFS, but you'll notice it on the trail for sure.

I've lifted my vitara/kick with those spring spacers, so only a wee bit so far. I drove with the swaybar undone (by accident) after i fitted them, and noticed a big difference in 'wobble' and flex up front. I can see the advantages offroad, and once i lift mine further i shall definatley be loosing it. However i dont think anyone else has asked....

Having just gone through my first cv joints, wouldnt the extra articulation/droop that the missing sway bar gives, put more stress on your cvs?? Just a thought...

Andy

could possibly put more stress on the CV's but that's life. justmake sure your struts don't droop much more than stock and it should be okay.

I did notice a difference with and without a sway bar both with stock suspension with crappy shocks and struts and brand new shocks and struts. makes a noticable difference both ways but corners surprisingly well with new shock absorbers

Having just gone through my first cv joints, wouldnt the extra articulation/droop that the missing sway bar gives, put more stress on your cvs?? Just a thought...

Andy

It will do, just take it easy with the loud pedal when you have the steering turned.

I think I have the answer to this 4 page question... remove it.. drive extremely careful and see how it does while respecting the fact that it may drasticly change the handling (which it did the first time I did) and see what you want out of the vehicle

it's all about respecting the vehicle and not thinking you are a freaking formula 1 racer

it's all about respecting the vehicle and not thinking you are a freaking formula 1 racer

Bingo.

well, I just went though the whole Melt weekend with my sway bar on..  I certainly don't see any advantage to removing it at all..   I like the stability that it provides to tell you the truth..

I can drop over a high, off camber hill, at an angle, touch down a front tire without too much flex and the whole truck doesn't ROLL towards the tire that touched down..

Screw flexy, I will take stable any day.

By the way, I went MORE places than the flexy sammys, and EVERYWHERE everyone else did. EVERYWHERE.. generally more stable and just as easily..

Someone explain to me exactly when flex is good?  (rhetorical question, don't answer...lol)

I know the theory is to keep the driving wheels in traction.. but these rigs are so light that if you are locked, you don't really need all four down... two is plenty 


I probably won't be removing my sway bar ever again, I don't care for the body roll over an off camber, when the front suspension is loaded... it makes it feel way too tippy for the kind of trails I run. And besides, if something works as well as my rig does.... why mess with it..

LOL... just thought I would toss this in.  When a rig with the sway bars removed actually doesn something better than mine, I might consider it..but it hasn't happened yet.. and I ran with some VERY flexy machines this weekend.. I wasn't impressed... but THEY were... More than once I had people come up to me after a trail obstacle and start asking all sorts of suspension questions, as to what I had done.. lol... 2" BDS... and trimming.. that's all... LOL..

FLEX is overrated... that's for sure.

Is it about posing?  or actual use?  Cause I would be happy to show up at a trail ride and demonstrate the prowess of a non-flexy vehicle.

To me, it is all about where you can go, and how easily.