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tracker died on me AGAIN

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Offline bioniconion

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tracker died on me AGAIN
« on: December 08, 2004, 12:28:14 PM »
ok so i deliver pizza's in my rig. so today i go to get in it on my break and i fire her up but she's struggling. i turn her right back off and try again, but NOTHING! not a click, not a strain to turn. DIDDLY! i can't figure out what the hell it is. im putting a new starter in her this friday. other than that what do u think could be the issue? this is only the 2nd time it's happened in like 3 months. but if i catch her in gear she runs like a champ. so after i pop started her i drove home to pick up my backup ride. turned the rig off and she fired right back up again on first key turn. so what do you all think? dead spot in starter? bad relay? what?
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2004, 12:33:50 PM »
The starter sounds like a definite possibility.

Carry a hammer or something you can rap on the starter with if it happens again.  If it starts after you rap on it, then the Bendix gear (I think that's what it's called) is sticking (time for a new starter or rebuild if that's possible with these things).
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2004, 12:43:49 PM »
Mine did basicly the same thing with it original starter.  It would usually start if I banged on the starter a bit.  Since I got the new starter no problems with starting.  If anyone needs a starter I got mine for $52.00 with shipping from probuilt_starters|removethispart|@yahoo.com.  They normally sell on e-bay.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2004, 12:47:26 PM »
mine was doing that to me so i replaced the battery , that worked for a month or so,started doing it again,replaced the battery cables ,ben good for about 6 months now.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2004, 12:55:42 PM »
well everything else worked fine except it wouldn't start *accesory wise* so im getting a new starter for 100 bucks us and then my uncles gonna put it in for me
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2004, 12:58:41 PM »
Putting it in is a piece of cake.  Took about 10 minutes.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2004, 01:08:22 PM »
Mine did that periodically, replaced factory positive battery cable head, and is fine now. Sometimes I would have to wiggle the cable to get 'er going.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2004, 01:08:37 PM »
but i have no tools, no garage, no lift, and it's been <30 around and WINDY and RAINY all week  :'(
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2004, 03:56:02 PM »
Most to all the time, in dealing with a starting issue with little to no crank, the issues deals with electric power. Battery, terminals, cables, relays, electric motor of the starter, etc. Resistance is the biggest problem. Some times is the battery shorting out, others high resistance areas: the terminals, which also leads down into the cables, relays could not be working correctly, and lastly, the electric motor of the starter as it's field windings could have shorted, are dirty, broken, etc. which all leads to resistance.
Start with the obvious. If terminals are dirty, remove and clean with coke, pop, etc. The acid in the soda reacts with the caustic powder on the cables. Rinse with water, dry, and apply battery terminal coating, reinstall. If you have a meter, measure the draw on the battery during starting. Voltage shouldn't drop below 8.5 volts. That's a real good battery against real bad terminals.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2004, 09:54:21 PM »
I would definately check all your connections first. I have a bad terminal on the X-90 and it does it occasionally (once ever few months). I just pop the hood, twist the battery cable to a tighter position, and off I go. I've been planning on puting new cables on but with it only rarely causing problems, I dont think about doing it when I have spare time  ::) (that or I'm just lazy :P)

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2004, 10:13:55 PM »
Wait, you can use the factory battery clamps after loosening/tightening them once or twice? :o

;D

Seriously, clamps are something I'd do anyway just for peace of mind... plus I hate, hate, HATE those cheap, crappy clamps.
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2004, 10:24:40 PM »
Just because they are strech, bent out of shape easily, and prone to carodeing (sp?) twice as fast as aftermarket ones, why would you not like them ::) ;D

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2004, 01:29:28 AM »
i already replaced the positive one...but it's no go..it wouldn't crank at all. so i think ill replace it just to be safe..i cleaned my terminals a few weeks ago and they look fine...
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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2004, 02:17:18 AM »
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Just because they are strech, bent out of shape easily, and prone to carodeing (sp?) twice as fast as aftermarket ones, why would you not like them ::) ;D

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Re: tracker died on me AGAIN
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2004, 04:45:51 AM »
Mine was doing something similar. I would have plenty of juice; I could run the lights and all just fine, but the starter wouldn't even click. Then I would roll start it by catching it in gear and it would run fine and even start normally a few more times before doing it again. Turned out to be a bad starter. I replaced it with a used one from a junkyard for $15 and haven't had any trouble since...
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