I m going for a SAS to my Sidekick.The problem is that the Sidekick's t-case has no slip yoke eliminators.With a SAS,the truck can be lifted significantly more than with IFS.Also flex increases dramatically.This means that without SYEs, I can either have limited lift-flex set up,or the driveshafts will be poping out of the t-case.As far as I know there are two ways to overcome this problem.First is to go with double t-cases and the other is to make SYEs.There is a way to make them as I ve been told,but I m a bit afraid of drilling and tapping the t-case output shafts.
So I thought if its possible to replace the Sidekick's transmission case -t-case with a Sammy one (with its t-case).This way ,I think I can even use the stock Sammy driveshafts for the beggining even with the addition of driveshaft spacers(not sure) and not having to buy new adjustable ones.Then I can add rockcrawlers in the sammy t-case and thus have lower high range as well as low range.A much more cheaper way than modifying the Sidekick's t-case.
I found this as I was searching

and "This adapter kit uses Trail Tough's original tried and proven 2-stage stud design for adapting the 1.6 engine to the Samurai. It eliminates the need for drilling or welding and makes installation of the transmission easier than ever before! Just bolt it on."

And from what I read (waiting an answer from trail-tough) I think its possible.
Since I m not experienced with mods,I would like to have your thougths on this,if you think its possible,possible drawbacks,e.t.c
thanks

Just get a Kicker3... easier than swapping the rest of the sammy drivetrain along with the Tcase. Plus, with a 2door, the kicker3 will give you less of an extreme driveshaft angle.

The Sidekick transmission is stronger and you had better think about what size rubber you want to run because your gearing will be altered significantly and even more so if you change the gears in the Samurai t-case.

Yes that kit would adapt your motor to the 1.3 trans But like other hacve said you would be going backward the kick trans is stonger. Does anyone have a good pic of the outputs on the Kick case.. I might beable to machine a SYE it. I wont have a kick in the shop for another wk or so but if there any good pics i can start the wheels turning..
-Scott

The Sidekick transmission is stronger and you had better think about what size rubber you want to run because your gearing will be altered significantly and even more so if you change the gears in the Samurai t-case.

I have 5,83:1 r & p's ,I m running now 31x10,5x15 and I m planning on puting 33's max.

Yes that kit would adapt your motor to the 1.3 trans But like other hacve said you would be going backward the kick trans is stonger. Does anyone have a good pic of the outputs on the Kick case.. I might beable to machine a SYE it. I wont have a kick in the shop for another wk or so but if there any good pics i can start the wheels turning..
-Scott

Wish I did have pictures...

I think this would be a wise marketing decision.. an SYE for a kick would solve a lot of problems when one decides to go SAS!



Heather

Yes that kit would adapt your motor to the 1.3 trans But like other hacve said you would be going backward the kick trans is stonger. Does anyone have a good pic of the outputs on the Kick case.. I might beable to machine a SYE it. I wont have a kick in the shop for another wk or so but if there any good pics i can start the wheels turning..
-Scott

I can understand that the Sidekick's trans is stronger,but  I m not going to do rockcrawling or install bigger than 33s'.I ve seen Sammy's with 33's that dont seem to have a problem with their trans.
As I mentioned previously,I m not experienced with mods,and I m considered a newbie in 4WD.At least comparing my driving skills to yours over there.
The reason I thought about this conversion is due to cost reasons.I know the OTT kicker 3 is the best solution,but the problem is this :I cant ship my trans from Greece to US and then receive it back due to cost reasons.The cost is the same as buying a lockright,minimum.Another reason is that the Kick is a daily driver.The third reason is that I ll have them (OTT) to buy for me(if they can do that)  a new Sidekick trans to modify it with their adaptor and send it back to me.The cost of shipping and duties at customs is almost equal  the cost of the kicker 3 itself.Not to mention the buying of one more Sidekick t-case.
So what remains as solution is the fabrication of SYE or the trans conversion.The first one (fab SYE) ,I havent done it,and I havent seen anything like that here before.
So it makes me a bit worried.The most cost effective solution would be the trans conversion cause I can sell mine and buy a new Sammy  trans.Plus it is almost bolt on.An even used  Sammy trans+t-case can be found here at 500$ max.
Of course I m not knowlegable about the drawbacks of such mod.Thats why I explained now all the parameters
(cost and driving style) ,so that you can have a general view of the whole issue,and advise me accordingly.
Thanks for your answers  till now.

Does anyone have a good pic of the outputs on the Kick case.. I might beable to machine a SYE it. I wont have a kick in the shop for another wk or so but if there any good pics i can start the wheels turning..
-Scott

this is the front t-case output from my truck
http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album40/DSC00768.jpg
http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album40/DSC00767.jpg
and this the rear one
http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album40/DSC00771.jpg
I dont know if this is what you asked for,but this is what I have.

If you're looking for cheap, just cut off the front output shaft on the tracker trans, have it welded shut, then bolt up a sammy Tcase to it... and viola: cheap, 2 tcases, and no slip yokes.

the sami T-case and diff flanges (and tracker diff flanges) have the same spline count as the tracker T-case outputs, that should make it easier to make a SYE kit

If you're looking for cheap, just cut off the front output shaft on the tracker trans, have it welded shut, then bolt up a sammy Tcase to it... and viola: cheap, 2 tcases, and no slip yokes.

Sounds simple,but I cant imagine it.I told you,I m not that experienced with such mods.Do you have any pics,or can you be more specific on how and where excectly I m going to bolt the sammy t-case ?

I usually dont like cheap solutions,but this particular time ,I want to keep cost as low as possible when I can,since I ll have the cost of the swap too.

Sounds simple,but I cant imagine it.I told you,I m not that experienced with such mods.Do you have any pics,or can you be more specific on how and where excectly I m going to bolt the sammy t-case ?

I usually dont like cheap solutions,but this particular time ,I want to keep cost as low as possible when I can,since I ll have the cost of the swap too.

I know that Glen fellow's site had pics of them (the guy with the olive green truck-style kick...), but i don't remember the address :-/

if ur not experanceced the kicker3 is ging to be the best and easiest route. after all the parts and labor r added ur not going to save that much.

Yes that kit would adapt your motor to the 1.3 trans But like other hacve said you would be going backward the kick trans is stonger. Does anyone have a good pic of the outputs on the Kick case.. I might beable to machine a SYE it. I wont have a kick in the shop for another wk or so but if there any good pics i can start the wheels turning..
-Scott

I can send you and extra T-case
for a SYE

I know that Glen fellow's site had pics of them (the guy with the olive green truck-style kick...), but i don't remember the address :-/

Yes, I  e-mailed  Glenn and he advised me on this.As I see it ,90 % of you think that the best solution is the kicker 3 regardless of cost factor ,and the fab of SYE using stock Sidekick's differential flanges is the other way to go.The problem is that I never seen anyone that did such mod.Not even one.And my argument is , what if this mod fails and the t-case output shafts break?
It also seemed strange that none of you liked the idea of attaching a Sammy trans on the Kick engine.
You maybe right on this.I thought ,at least from the impression I got ,that this would be the simpler way to solve the problem ,at least temporarily.Move one trans out,bolt the other on.Plus ,I m not going to do all this complicated work.My mechanic will.I will only help him .