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Offline mbmarkyb

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revisit a transmission question
« on: June 14, 2005, 07:27:55 PM »
Had a search around and wanted to try and nail this question if i can.

question,
X90 running 4:62 diff ratios manual gearbox 4wd 1.6L
31.10.50s for example

track/uk vit/kick running 5:12 manual gearbox 4wd 1.6
31.10.50 for example

To me there must be a difference somewhere in the drive train for what should be a simular truck about from the diff ratios.

Has the X90 or Suzuki running 4.62 diff ratios have a slightly lower range in either the gearbox or T case?

If this is the case which one as it would make a nice mod to switch over and grab a little lower gearing ?

History:   only thing i found out is the T case is the same seems some differences in an auto as more torque produced,  

Anyone know, tried tested??

this is bugging me :-)
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Offline SnoFalls

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Re: revisit a transmission question
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2005, 09:18:26 PM »
I think the only reason a manual x90 woulda got 4.62 from the factory would be to get a higher top speed.

an auto tranny trucklet got 4.62's since a slushbox essentially trades some rwhp for torque.
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Offline cj

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Re: revisit a transmission question
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2005, 09:37:59 PM »
In OZ both the manual and the auto got 4.875 diff ratios.

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Offline zooky

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Re: revisit a transmission question
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2005, 11:51:46 PM »
the X-90 came with smaller tires

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Offline mbmarkyb

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Re: revisit a transmission question
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2005, 11:52:19 PM »
maybe down to weight as i suppose the x90 doesnt weigh as much as a kick
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Re: revisit a transmission question
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2005, 08:30:43 AM »
X90 is lighter, more aerodynamic and has the 16V engine so it can run higher gearing. I've always been a little surprised that the 8V Track/Kick and the 16V have the same gearing, the 16V has around 20% more power. I don't know whether the 8V is geared too high (mine always seemed like it), the 16V is too low or a bit of both.
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Re: revisit a transmission question
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2005, 08:46:48 AM »
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X90 is lighter, more aerodynamic and has the 16V engine so it can run higher gearing. I've always been a little surprised that the 8V Track/Kick and the 16V have the same gearing, the 16V has around 20% more power. I don't know whether the 8V is geared too high (mine always seemed like it), the 16V is too low or a bit of both.


My 16v likes the 29 inch tires I intalled.  It seems to have corrected the overgearing.

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Offline barcus

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Re: revisit a transmission question
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2005, 12:53:23 AM »
will switching to sammy t-case help? m not really familiar with sammy t-case gearing but i know that sammy's high range is lower than track's 1:1 ratio.