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Offline chrisvitarasport94

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Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style lift
« on: April 05, 2004, 11:56:08 PM »
I finally fitted the Spec Prods Ez Cam XR 81250 bolts today - good instructions, only took an hour all in.

I set them to create maximum negative camber, to correct the positive camber caused by the lift.

I can certainly recommend this as an easy, cheap & effective modification - there is no reason not to do it!

As an aside, I saw on a "lowering" camber adjustment page that 1" of drop generates 1 deg of neg camber, so if the reverse applies my lift must have created 2.5 deg of positive camber. The bolts can correct +/- 1.75 deg, so that might bring it back now to within the factory spec of 0.3 deg +/- 1 deg

The wheels have been visibly corrected and now appear upright and parallel to the rears when view from the front, but I must get a proper camber check done.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2004, 11:56:42 PM by chrisvitarasport94 »
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2004, 08:21:20 AM »
Nice one Chris, got any pics? Before you go to get the alignment done be sure to check that they actually know how to operate the equipment. I went to a local Stop 'n' Steer place and they checked the toe-in but didn't know how to check the camber with their hugely expensive equipment. I may just try a straight edge against the wheel rim, a protractor and a plumb line. Pretty much the way I used to set up my front suspension when I raced bikes.
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2004, 09:52:09 AM »
thanks for the tip, I'll speak to the head honcho and explain what I've done. and what I want.

Still haven't bought a digi camera yet sorry!

The instructions on the Spec Prod web site give a good picture of the fitting and adjustment.

http://www.specprod.com/PROD_DIR/PROD_TRUCK.html
« Last Edit: April 17, 2004, 06:11:13 AM by chrisvitarasport94 »
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2004, 09:15:12 PM »
Now had the aligment properly checked after fitting the camber correction bolts;

camber was within the +/- 30' !!!

caster un affected

toe in slightly out, could be due to lift but probably due to 10 years wear and tear - now put right.


Vitara has now been set up with -ve camber and toe, within specs, to give best off road control, and drives very well now!
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2004, 11:32:43 PM »
Did you notice any difference in under/oversteer on the road?
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2004, 11:59:38 PM »
I'm running the OME supension plus coil spacers and the camber adjustment bolts allowed the alignment to come back in spec after fitting the spacers. It handles just like it used to standard just higher and firmer.

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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2004, 12:59:57 AM »
Yes James, it seems to run smoother & with less effort than before - the previous resistance I put down to the MT's!, but evidently "perfect" alignment really makes a difference.

As I thought when I fitted the bolts, and it's like getting your shifters done after a body lift, it really is worth the extra effort to finish the job properly.
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2004, 01:00:36 AM »
Do you have the information on where to find the camber bolts?  About how much did they cost?  Any pictures of the kit?

                                      Thanks,
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Offline chrisvitarasport94

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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2004, 01:18:27 AM »
see the web site mentioned above; Spec Prods EZ Cam XR. search the web also for Monroe ( Munroe?) Magic Cam
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2004, 01:07:31 PM »
just picked up a set today. i can't wait to see the results.

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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2004, 01:39:39 PM »
hey guys u don't have to buy camder bolts. just cut out the top strut hole where it bolts to the shoot the word evades me right now. anyway it will alow you to adjust the camder just make sure you measure it out first struts aren't that cheep.
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2004, 02:11:13 PM »
Quote
struts aren't that cheep.


but the camber bolts were  ;D

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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2004, 03:11:04 PM »
What exactly are camber bolts (the link above was no help)?
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2004, 05:45:26 PM »
http://www.specprod.com/PROD_DIR/PROD_TRUCK.html

I think if you follow this link it should make it clear
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Re: Camber fixed (after spring & spacer style
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2004, 04:16:42 AM »
( COPIED FROM A SIMILAR RECENT POST )....

A-Arm offset bushes- step 2 in camber correction!!!

http://www.autospeed.com/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?category=645&product=1004300113&sc_add=1004300113&

- you might like to consider these Oz modifications as were recommended to me, but which I haven't needed to try or to consider any further.

If you do try them, or anyone else has, how about some feedback please
'94 3dr s/top Sport, roof bars, roof lights, Calmini bumper, SuperwinchEP9, CB & handheld, GPS, 2" body lift, skid plates, 2.5" susp lift, & hi-lift. Safari Snorkel. R Lockright