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Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion

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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2004, 03:21:04 AM »
I m  confused somehow.I received e-mails from people and companies about the conversion I want to make (Sammy trans to Sidekick's engine) .Some of them say that it can be done,the others say that it cannot,and that it is better to keep the Sidekick's t-case and attach to it a Sammy t-case.So is someone sure that such mod can be done, and has seen it or we are just making assumptions ?

If I assume that this is a 4th option,I ve seen some photos but partially cause a photo cant include the whole mod.Can someone make a drawing or tell me where to find any pics that show the whole set up of the mod so that I can understand how to do it.I want to understand how the Sammy t-case attaches to the Sidekicks t-case.
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2004, 03:43:27 AM »
 

http://www.ottindustries.com/kicker3.htm
SideKick Tranny with modified Stock T-case and Sammie T-case
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2004, 03:53:02 AM »
Thanks HotRod.I ve seen photos of the  kicker 3 set up.
I was reffering to a more home-made like  mod.
Well, I found some ,I m trying to understand them.
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2004, 09:01:44 AM »
Sorry stepped away for a day or so, If you need an option other then sending stuff to OTT go with the RingR, and adat to the Toy trans and case, it is Bullet proof over the kick stuff and a very easy install. + fixed output's so you dont have to worry about slip yokes..
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Re: Sidekick -Sammy -SAS-trans conversion
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2004, 09:04:19 AM »
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I can send you and extra T-case
for a SYE ;)


If if it is just an xtra laying around send it and i will start working on it.
-Scott
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Re: Sidekick -Sammy -SAS-trans conversion
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2004, 10:34:58 AM »
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If if it is just an xtra laying around send it and i will start working on it.
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2004, 02:10:35 PM »
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Sorry stepped away for a day or so, If you need an option other then sending stuff to OTT go with the RingR, and adat to the Toy trans and case, it is Bullet proof over the kick stuff and a very easy install. + fixed output's so you dont have to worry about slip yokes..


Parts needed

RingR, Toy 4cyl 4x4 trans and t-case w-56,or g-52 optional t-case with crawler gears


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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2004, 02:15:52 PM »
rockrat:
Does that setup put the shifters in/near the stock holes on a kick?
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2004, 10:31:16 AM »
Dont know exactly maybee Kerry will chime in... I use them in a samurai. pretty close for the 1st 2 shifters the 3rd well lets just say NO. But then it all went into this so I made new floors anyways. I will see what I can find out for ya
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2004, 08:15:51 PM »
Bump,

SYE for Kick t-case.
Anybody got the final word?

~Nate

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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2004, 11:55:14 AM »
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Bump,

SYE for Kick t-case.
Anybody got the final word?

~Nate



My final design, weld a washer for
a stopper in a diff flange, then drill
and tap the output/s
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2004, 02:44:11 PM »
Its good thinking and cheap to fab it.But I still worry about the t-case output shafts integrity when drilled and tapped and with a 6mm bolt in them.I mean, the idea is perfect,but we dont have any info whether it works o.k or not in the long run.My truck is a daily driver and with the thought that something breaks in there......brrrrrrrr  If I had a second Kick I would definately try it.
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2004, 03:40:33 PM »
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Its good thinking and cheap to fab it.But I still worry about the t-case output shafts integrity when drilled and tapped and with a 6mm bolt in them.I mean, the idea is perfect,but we dont have any info whether it works o.k or not in the long run.My truck is a daily driver and with the thought that something breaks in there......brrrrrrrr  If I had a second Kick I would definately try it.



You should see what OTT does with the output shaft for the kicker3 conversion...
I would NOT worry about drilling and tapping out a hole.
Especially when it's filled with a bolt when done.
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2004, 04:00:03 PM »
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You should see what OTT does with the output shaft for the kicker3 conversion...
I would NOT worry about drilling and tapping out a hole.
Especially when it's filled with a bolt when done.


Dont tell me that they do something similar ....... :o
Thanks for the info Nate   :)
What should I use to tab the output shaft ? For drilling I ve read about cobalt  or carbide drills.Especially the second ones are considered to be the best option.
But tapping ?  
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Re: Sidekick SAS -SYE-Sammy trans.conversion
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2004, 07:57:25 AM »
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Dont tell me that they do something similar ....... :o
Thanks for the info Nate   :)
What should I use to tab the output shaft ? For drilling I ve read about cobalt  or carbide drills.Especially the second ones are considered to be the best option.
But tapping ?  


They machine the output shaft of the kick case, so the sammy case input shaft slips into the output shaft a bit.

As for drilling and tapping, not sure.  I'm not a metalurgist.  But tapping bits are usually pretty hard to begin with, plus they only take a little bit out at a time, so they don't need to be extra super strong.  I'd think that most tapping bits would be able to cut through it.

~Nate
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